Episode 85 Legal

Rewriting the Laws of War for Cyberspace (Full Interview)

Anna Beck | November 2, 2026 | 1:04:48

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Rewriting the Laws of War for Cyberspace (Full Interview)

Aid groups like the Red Cross work in nearly every war zone, and they hold some of the most sensitive data there is: missing persons, prisoners of war, even biometrics. Anna Beck joins co-hosts Joe Patti and Adam Roth to talk about what happens when that data, and the systems behind it, become a cyber target.

The laws of war weren’t written with cyberspace in mind. Anna explains why, in her reading, a cyberattack that knocks an aid group offline may not legally count as an “attack,” or a war crime. Then: who actually enforces the Geneva Conventions, why the Tallinn Manual’s own experts disagree, and why the Red Cross is building a digital emblem that isn’t a firewall.

Recorded in two sessions in July 2026. The conversation presents the speakers’ analysis and interpretations.

Topics Discussed

  • Humanitarian organizations and the sensitive data they hold
  • The Geneva Conventions and protection for aid organizations
  • When a cyber operation legally counts as an attack
  • War crimes, enforcement, and the limits of international law
  • The Tallinn Manual and disagreements over cyber norms
  • Neutrality, cloud services, and data centers in conflict
  • The Red Cross Digital Emblem Project
  • Why a digital emblem is a signal, not a firewall

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